They just how I was expecting them to, really pleased with them.
Just two very minor nitpicks about the weapons. I don't like the hole in the middle of the shield in between the bat wings, it kind of defeats the whole purpose of a shield, wish it was filled in black or grey. Also I wish the eyes on the crossbow were facing away from the trooper not towards him, this is how it is on the other Horde crossbow, with the face facing away from the holder.
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To me, however, the problem even with the vintage ones was that despite being able to adjust the head at an angle to make it approximate the Filmation look, the visor clearly never should have had that huge solid yellow segment in the first place. Instead there should have been two separate yellow triangles completely surrounded by black.
I like them a lot. Can't wait to include them in my army.
Re-release horde troopers with filmation style visor to anchor subs for 2015!!! win win for every one. Its already tooled, just changed the head.
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I'm not sure why people are so down on these guys, I think they look fantastic, and having just watched the PDs walk though how awesome did it look with He-mans head,!!!
As for the eyes, I think it all about the position of the head, and if it isn't you know one of the third party guys will do a filmation one
The Horsemen need to make some helmeted "Raven" figure heads that look just like Horde Trooper heads that amazingly when placed on the MOTUC Horde Trooper sit lower and look better? That would be a nice coincidence Although I'm at least hoping Kevin Kosse or some other outstanding customizer can make some heads that fit "right".
In case anyone is wondering what the problem is and hasn't read the entire thread...
The middle 2 are FINAL and according to folks at the con, the helmets will not go much lower than these pics. It is obvious that the heads just don't sit low enough on the peg or that the peg is too tall.(or even the armor is too low-doubtful) So until we see pics or we have 100% confirmation from reliable sources that they will not look this ridiculously worse than the vintage toy, "houston, we have a problem". Good luck selling boatloads of multiples of these, as well as Skysleds. At least this seems to be the only major thing messed up from the reveals...so far. This has to be the worst with all of the potential for multiple sales hindered by this, small aesthetic issue. If you think they look good, well I am happy for you, but those aren't the droids I was looking for...
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I've been trying really hard to convince myself that these look good, but... yeah. These did not work out. When the vintage figure looks better than a $25 dollar figure sculpted in 2013, you know somethings gone wrong. The proportions are terrible, the helmets, and I'm worried about the hip articulation-- looks like it could be pretty limited.
Overall, they look like Horde Cosplayers.
When everyone had pretty much concluded that the troopers would be the army builder, I was already suspecting something. The troopers really need to be oversized figures, like Ram Man, and $50 just was not going to cover that.
This toyline hits the sweet spot most of the time, but these are a major fumble.
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Here's what I don't get. In the PowerPoint at the panel, the pic showed that the heads could sit properly to give it the right look. Aren't the pics taken when the first production samples arrive? Is it possible that that its just something with these two samples?
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According the TheFwoosh, this is apparently as low as they go:
Hmm, how many NA part resues do I see in there? Flogg for sure. Hoove probably. 2nd NA Skelly, maybe.
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So they come with 1 spear only
What's the point of a 2-pack if one is incomplete.
Vintage Horde Trooper's accessory was the spear.
The 2-pack must have at the very least 2 spears,
It'll be a huge disappointment if they come with only 1 spear...
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I loved the vintage Troopers ... but to be honest these are not perfect. I rate them 6/10 ... they could have been 10/10 easily. I'm not sure why Mattel changed their look. It's not only the "eyes" but the shoulder-pads are somehow too "freindly". I photoshopped how they would have been perfect (for me).
Thanks! I didn't change the head just lowered ist. And when I looked at my vitage Trooper I noticed the shoulders ... right now they look like your friedly everyday-robot you would ask for the way ... don't get me wrong. I like them but it could have been real love.
You are right about the shoulders.
Imagine you met a Trooper in the dark, you could easily recognize him by the silhouette of his body, especially due to the shoulders. If you met a MOTUC trooper in the dark, you wouldn't know it's a Trooper until it's too late
But in all seriousness, the shoulders are my main gripe. They look worng. They have changed the character of the figures way too much, espeicially with the addition of the eyes.
I guess the head can be fixed somehow by drilling the hole a bit deeper or use something to make the armor sit higher. But we'll never be able to fix the shoulders.
I'm getting this suspicion that the 4H have more work than they can handle. Their workload is just too much and therefore more and more of these not very well executed sculpts show up (Nepthu with too little detail and a wrong head sculpt, Troopers, Dactys not classisized enough, NA He-Man's face and hands, other faces people have criticized like Clamp Champ, Fisto, Jitsu...)
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